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	<description>Attempting to Unravel the Complex World of Human Resources</description>
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		<title>By: HR Lori &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Hammonds Redux</title>
		<link>http://hrlori.com/we-dont-like-you-either/comment-page-1/#comment-144</link>
		<dc:creator>HR Lori &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Hammonds Redux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Apr 2006 05:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I&#8217;ve discussed the merits of Mr. Hammonds article and his subsequent explanation, so I don&#8217;t think I need to in this post, however, I still maintain that Mr. Hammonds needs to be in HR to understand HR. The best laid plans of strategy and leadership can often be waylaid by a sexual harassment claim. The sign of a good HR leader is the ability to balance the long term and the immediate. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I&#8217;ve discussed the merits of Mr. Hammonds article and his subsequent explanation, so I don&#8217;t think I need to in this post, however, I still maintain that Mr. Hammonds needs to be in HR to understand HR. The best laid plans of strategy and leadership can often be waylaid by a sexual harassment claim. The sign of a good HR leader is the ability to balance the long term and the immediate. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah Gayer CHRP</title>
		<link>http://hrlori.com/we-dont-like-you-either/comment-page-1/#comment-24</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah Gayer CHRP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2005 17:08:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have never laughed as hard as I did when I was reading the article.  All I can say is that he needs to get a better research team to feed him his material for his articles.  As a Certified Human Resources Professional (CHRP- in Canada) and someone who has been in the profession for many years I was greatly insulted and hurt by the comments made about us....the perception that he left readers with was that we where stupid and could not add value to any organization.  As a HR Consultant, one of the reasons that I went out on  my own was becuase I got tired of working for companies that did not understand what HR was all about and did not see our value.  Now on my own I am hired for my expertise, I give it and go and whether the client follows through on whatever it is I was hired to do I do not worry about.  I still get paid.

It is sad that a profession  such as ours has been looked upon this way.  Yes we do need to continually upgrade our skills but we do that through the recertification process and by ensuring that we provide the best service we can. 

I am also an instructor in the HR certificate program at various institutions and I make sure that my students understand how HR can add value and what that means to an organization. 

Please get the next issue of Fast Company and read my response which I was told would be published and hopefully it has not been changed to much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have never laughed as hard as I did when I was reading the article.  All I can say is that he needs to get a better research team to feed him his material for his articles.  As a Certified Human Resources Professional (CHRP- in Canada) and someone who has been in the profession for many years I was greatly insulted and hurt by the comments made about us&#8230;.the perception that he left readers with was that we where stupid and could not add value to any organization.  As a HR Consultant, one of the reasons that I went out on  my own was becuase I got tired of working for companies that did not understand what HR was all about and did not see our value.  Now on my own I am hired for my expertise, I give it and go and whether the client follows through on whatever it is I was hired to do I do not worry about.  I still get paid.</p>
<p>It is sad that a profession  such as ours has been looked upon this way.  Yes we do need to continually upgrade our skills but we do that through the recertification process and by ensuring that we provide the best service we can. </p>
<p>I am also an instructor in the HR certificate program at various institutions and I make sure that my students understand how HR can add value and what that means to an organization. </p>
<p>Please get the next issue of Fast Company and read my response which I was told would be published and hopefully it has not been changed to much.</p>
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		<title>By: SAWB</title>
		<link>http://hrlori.com/we-dont-like-you-either/comment-page-1/#comment-20</link>
		<dc:creator>SAWB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2005 14:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HR under seige!!!  Check it out:  http://www.erexchange.com/ARTICLES/DEFAULT.ASP?CID={26F80179-DEB9-4ADF-A9B2-5305611C7D98}</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HR under seige!!!  Check it out:  <a href="http://www.erexchange.com/ARTICLES/DEFAULT.ASP?CID=" rel="nofollow">http://www.erexchange.com/ARTICLES/DEFAULT.ASP?CID=</a>{26F80179-DEB9-4ADF-A9B2-5305611C7D98}</p>
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		<title>By: Rusty</title>
		<link>http://hrlori.com/we-dont-like-you-either/comment-page-1/#comment-19</link>
		<dc:creator>Rusty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jul 2005 05:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You tell&#039;em Lori!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You tell&#8217;em Lori!</p>
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		<title>By: SAWB</title>
		<link>http://hrlori.com/we-dont-like-you-either/comment-page-1/#comment-18</link>
		<dc:creator>SAWB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2005 15:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought it was a great article.  I have been in the HR world since the late 80s: with a Fortune 50 corporation, the leading HR outsourcing/consulting firm as well as my own 12-person consultancy.  

I have seen a handful of HR people who are capable business people.  I have seen many who are glorified order-takers.  

I made the decision to focus on recruiting after seeing too many worthless HR programs get forced down the throats of line managers and the employee population.  Rarely does HR (except in recruiting) demonstrate the ability to write a business plan, execute the plan, report the results, modify the plan and provide on-going value to the organization.

Too frequently HR does not function as their client managers are required to function.  Until HR managers learn to conduct business like business people do, they will be the subject of the sort of criticism seen in the Fast Company article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought it was a great article.  I have been in the HR world since the late 80s: with a Fortune 50 corporation, the leading HR outsourcing/consulting firm as well as my own 12-person consultancy.  </p>
<p>I have seen a handful of HR people who are capable business people.  I have seen many who are glorified order-takers.  </p>
<p>I made the decision to focus on recruiting after seeing too many worthless HR programs get forced down the throats of line managers and the employee population.  Rarely does HR (except in recruiting) demonstrate the ability to write a business plan, execute the plan, report the results, modify the plan and provide on-going value to the organization.</p>
<p>Too frequently HR does not function as their client managers are required to function.  Until HR managers learn to conduct business like business people do, they will be the subject of the sort of criticism seen in the Fast Company article.</p>
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		<title>By: Sophie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sophie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2005 02:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ugh, that is a horrible and terribly badly written article. It is full of contradictions and presents absolutely no logic to support most of its statements.  I&#039;d be angry too if I were you and I&#039;d have the same problem: where to start when so much is wrong in an article?

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ugh, that is a horrible and terribly badly written article. It is full of contradictions and presents absolutely no logic to support most of its statements.  I&#8217;d be angry too if I were you and I&#8217;d have the same problem: where to start when so much is wrong in an article?</p>
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